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		<title>By: Ethan Huizenga</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ethan Huizenga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 04:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great interview with Ms. Combs. Based on my limited research to this point, it seems like most people are using an SaaS company to populate the back end of their VLOs. I&#039;ve read Ms. Kimbro&#039;s book and am using her various checklists to go about setting up my own VLO, but I&#039;ve got questions about the client portal. Any guidance or input would be much appreciated.

First, how many competing companies are out there at this point for providing SaaS to law firms? Are there several companies competing for VLO business or just one or two strong ones? 

Second, I&#039;m curious what level of customization a lawyer has over the client interface. How individualized to the specific law firm is the client interface? 

Lastly, if it&#039;s alright, I&#039;d like the option to quote from this article and the comments on the blog which I&#039;m writing to catalog my investigation into launching my own VLO. I&#039;m following Ms. Kimbro&#039;s checklists from her book and writing posts along the way. The more sources you have, the better, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview with Ms. Combs. Based on my limited research to this point, it seems like most people are using an SaaS company to populate the back end of their VLOs. I&#8217;ve read Ms. Kimbro&#8217;s book and am using her various checklists to go about setting up my own VLO, but I&#8217;ve got questions about the client portal. Any guidance or input would be much appreciated.</p>
<p>First, how many competing companies are out there at this point for providing SaaS to law firms? Are there several companies competing for VLO business or just one or two strong ones? </p>
<p>Second, I&#8217;m curious what level of customization a lawyer has over the client interface. How individualized to the specific law firm is the client interface? </p>
<p>Lastly, if it&#8217;s alright, I&#8217;d like the option to quote from this article and the comments on the blog which I&#8217;m writing to catalog my investigation into launching my own VLO. I&#8217;m following Ms. Kimbro&#8217;s checklists from her book and writing posts along the way. The more sources you have, the better, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Rania Combs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rania Combs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris. 

You&#039;ve asked some very good questions, including some I asked myself. 

With respect to competence, I had this conversation not too long ago with Stephanie Kimbro, who had discussed this issue with Will Hornsby and Rich Granat. Their opinion is as follows:

&quot;As attorneys, determining the competency of an individual is not our job. We didn&#039;t go to medical school and I are not qualified to make that call. We can only use the best of our abilities to ensure that the client understands what he or she is signing and what the consequences of signing it will be. This is traditionally determined by having a conversation with the client in person. Even then you might not recognize an illness such as dementia, which can come and go, but as an attorney, we cannot be expected to go to greater measures than determining that they understand what they are signing.

So, in the virtual world there are several ways to determine capacity. First, clients have to fill out a client intake form online. This contains all of the questions I would ask if I were meeting them in person. Usually if there is a problem, a red flag will first show up in the response or lack thereof. I also have the ability to schedule phone calls and web conferences with clients. I have sometimes extensive text conversations with clients back and forth about provisions in a document or what they are trying to accomplish. Also, before the documents can be enforceable, they must be notarized in front of two witnesses. The notary acknowledgment is written to have the notary check the driver’s license of the person signing the document and the witnesses attest to the capacity of the signer.

With a combination of those methods, I feel comfortable that I am not drafting documents for someone holding undue influence over the client. I would also think that if a person were going to commit fraud or undue influence online, they would pay less and go to a document preparation service rather than come to my virtual law office.&quot; 

Nevertheless, when people call asking me to draft a will for an elderly client who they admit has dementia, the beginning stages or Alzheimer&#039;s or who supposedly wants to disinherit a child, for example, I decline representation and refer them to an attorney with a physical law office who can take a good look at the situation and make sure the clients rights are protected.

With respect to the proper execution of the documents, I limit my representation to drafting the documents and also provide very detailed instructions on how to execute the documents in compliance with the statutes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve asked some very good questions, including some I asked myself. </p>
<p>With respect to competence, I had this conversation not too long ago with Stephanie Kimbro, who had discussed this issue with Will Hornsby and Rich Granat. Their opinion is as follows:</p>
<p>&#8220;As attorneys, determining the competency of an individual is not our job. We didn&#8217;t go to medical school and I are not qualified to make that call. We can only use the best of our abilities to ensure that the client understands what he or she is signing and what the consequences of signing it will be. This is traditionally determined by having a conversation with the client in person. Even then you might not recognize an illness such as dementia, which can come and go, but as an attorney, we cannot be expected to go to greater measures than determining that they understand what they are signing.</p>
<p>So, in the virtual world there are several ways to determine capacity. First, clients have to fill out a client intake form online. This contains all of the questions I would ask if I were meeting them in person. Usually if there is a problem, a red flag will first show up in the response or lack thereof. I also have the ability to schedule phone calls and web conferences with clients. I have sometimes extensive text conversations with clients back and forth about provisions in a document or what they are trying to accomplish. Also, before the documents can be enforceable, they must be notarized in front of two witnesses. The notary acknowledgment is written to have the notary check the driver’s license of the person signing the document and the witnesses attest to the capacity of the signer.</p>
<p>With a combination of those methods, I feel comfortable that I am not drafting documents for someone holding undue influence over the client. I would also think that if a person were going to commit fraud or undue influence online, they would pay less and go to a document preparation service rather than come to my virtual law office.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nevertheless, when people call asking me to draft a will for an elderly client who they admit has dementia, the beginning stages or Alzheimer&#8217;s or who supposedly wants to disinherit a child, for example, I decline representation and refer them to an attorney with a physical law office who can take a good look at the situation and make sure the clients rights are protected.</p>
<p>With respect to the proper execution of the documents, I limit my representation to drafting the documents and also provide very detailed instructions on how to execute the documents in compliance with the statutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 20:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello everybody.  Thank you for this article.  I too am thinking about doing this sort of an virtual office for estate planning.  I am admitted in both SC and NY. physically based in SC, and am thinking abiout trying to get vitual estate planning clients throughout SC and NY.  

There are two issues that I am concerned with though.  One, I think that part of your job as an estate planning attorney is to assess the capacity of your clients and try to determine whether what they want you to do for them is really their own free will. How do you go about assessing this in a virtual practice setting? Have you ever found yourself in a situation where you turned down an estate planning representation because it just didn&#039;t seem right? Do you verify identities?

What do you do to ensure that the documents are properly executed? I would assume you provide a letter of instruction to your clients on how to properly execute the documents.  Do you follow up afterwards in anyway to ensure that everything is done correctly? What about if you are funding a trust with a house? Do you take charge of the recording or leave that to your clients as well?  

Would appreciate any thoughts you might have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everybody.  Thank you for this article.  I too am thinking about doing this sort of an virtual office for estate planning.  I am admitted in both SC and NY. physically based in SC, and am thinking abiout trying to get vitual estate planning clients throughout SC and NY.  </p>
<p>There are two issues that I am concerned with though.  One, I think that part of your job as an estate planning attorney is to assess the capacity of your clients and try to determine whether what they want you to do for them is really their own free will. How do you go about assessing this in a virtual practice setting? Have you ever found yourself in a situation where you turned down an estate planning representation because it just didn&#8217;t seem right? Do you verify identities?</p>
<p>What do you do to ensure that the documents are properly executed? I would assume you provide a letter of instruction to your clients on how to properly execute the documents.  Do you follow up afterwards in anyway to ensure that everything is done correctly? What about if you are funding a trust with a house? Do you take charge of the recording or leave that to your clients as well?  </p>
<p>Would appreciate any thoughts you might have.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Young</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judy Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m brick and mortal to the extent I &quot;carpet commute&quot;.  I run a full service firm providing transactional, administrative and regulatory legal services.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m brick and mortal to the extent I &#8220;carpet commute&#8221;.  I run a full service firm providing transactional, administrative and regulatory legal services.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra L Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra L Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing your experience, Judy. It sounds like you use a virtual office to complement your brick &amp; mortar office. Is that correct? Or are you all virtual?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your experience, Judy. It sounds like you use a virtual office to complement your brick &amp; mortar office. Is that correct? Or are you all virtual?</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Young</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judy Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking from my own virtual law office experience which began with Steph Kimbro&#039;s VLOTech, I think an important consideration is that the VLO portal gives me the ability to reach across the state for my client base as opposed to being restrained to a local geographic area.  Its the difference between reaching 8 wineries versus 150.  My winery client base is located in every county of Pennsylvania&#039;s 62 counties.  Having a virtual law office allows me to reach them. While my hospitality clients have typically been closer geographically, I find that if you do good work, word of mouth gets around rapidly across the state. I let my work speak for me. That is more important to me than anything I can say on a website blog.

I do however think it makes good sense to have your blog Rachel on your website as well. I find it to be very efficient and the reader doesn&#039;t have to change sites to get more detail on who you are and what you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking from my own virtual law office experience which began with Steph Kimbro&#8217;s VLOTech, I think an important consideration is that the VLO portal gives me the ability to reach across the state for my client base as opposed to being restrained to a local geographic area.  Its the difference between reaching 8 wineries versus 150.  My winery client base is located in every county of Pennsylvania&#8217;s 62 counties.  Having a virtual law office allows me to reach them. While my hospitality clients have typically been closer geographically, I find that if you do good work, word of mouth gets around rapidly across the state. I let my work speak for me. That is more important to me than anything I can say on a website blog.</p>
<p>I do however think it makes good sense to have your blog Rachel on your website as well. I find it to be very efficient and the reader doesn&#8217;t have to change sites to get more detail on who you are and what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra L Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra L Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing your experience, too, Stephanie. The experiences you two have shared just point to how important it is to test our assumptions and track our results!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your experience, too, Stephanie. The experiences you two have shared just point to how important it is to test our assumptions and track our results!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Kimbro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Kimbro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rania&#039;s virtual law office is a great example of the flexibility that this form of law practice allows for the attorney.  She is able to live in one state while delivering legal services to clients in another.  

Similar to Rania&#039;s practice, with my own virtual law office, I also was surprised by the type of clients that I have registering online.  I initially thought they would be younger individuals in the age range of 20-30 and I targeted my advertising that way at first.  However, most of my online clients are in the age range of 35-50 and I also have some older retired clients in their 60s and 70s. That was not what I expected, but if you think about all of the grandparents going on Facebook these days to keep in touch with the family, it does make sense that if they can use Facebook and email, they would be comfortable communicating with an attorney through a secure client portal. 

As our client base gets younger, I think we will see even more of a demand for online legal services.  I know Rachel Rodgers with her online practice focused on younger entrepreneurs is seeing this trend now.  

Kudos to the trailblazers for sharing their experiences with the rest of us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rania&#8217;s virtual law office is a great example of the flexibility that this form of law practice allows for the attorney.  She is able to live in one state while delivering legal services to clients in another.  </p>
<p>Similar to Rania&#8217;s practice, with my own virtual law office, I also was surprised by the type of clients that I have registering online.  I initially thought they would be younger individuals in the age range of 20-30 and I targeted my advertising that way at first.  However, most of my online clients are in the age range of 35-50 and I also have some older retired clients in their 60s and 70s. That was not what I expected, but if you think about all of the grandparents going on Facebook these days to keep in touch with the family, it does make sense that if they can use Facebook and email, they would be comfortable communicating with an attorney through a secure client portal. </p>
<p>As our client base gets younger, I think we will see even more of a demand for online legal services.  I know Rachel Rodgers with her online practice focused on younger entrepreneurs is seeing this trend now.  </p>
<p>Kudos to the trailblazers for sharing their experiences with the rest of us!</p>
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		<title>By: Debra L Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Debra L Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel-
I think it makes a lot of sense to have your blog on your website. It makes it very easy for your client to find out more about your firm and take that next step of contacting you. In addition, your website can be built mostly in Wordpress or other technology, making it easier for you to make changes yourself, instead of having to call your webmaster for everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel-<br />
I think it makes a lot of sense to have your blog on your website. It makes it very easy for your client to find out more about your firm and take that next step of contacting you. In addition, your website can be built mostly in WordPress or other technology, making it easier for you to make changes yourself, instead of having to call your webmaster for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Rodgers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel Rodgers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much for this, Debra &amp; Rania! I just launched my Online Law Office and have been looking for tips. I like the idea of making an introductory call after the client registers. And I have been debating whether I should move my blog to my firm website, it seems like Rania has had a lot of success by blogging on her firm website. I may have to go ahead and move that blog. 

Thanks, again, this was great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this, Debra &amp; Rania! I just launched my Online Law Office and have been looking for tips. I like the idea of making an introductory call after the client registers. And I have been debating whether I should move my blog to my firm website, it seems like Rania has had a lot of success by blogging on her firm website. I may have to go ahead and move that blog. </p>
<p>Thanks, again, this was great!</p>
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