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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>https://solopracticeuniversity.com/2010/10/27/can-squareup-work-for-your-practice/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if this works with LawPay?  LawPay does credit card processing for lawyers and is set up to handle trust accounting.  It would be great if they are compatible with Square&#039;s swipe technology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this works with LawPay?  LawPay does credit card processing for lawyers and is set up to handle trust accounting.  It would be great if they are compatible with Square&#8217;s swipe technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
		<link>https://solopracticeuniversity.com/2010/10/27/can-squareup-work-for-your-practice/#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They probably just want nothing to do with anything that even smacks of &#039;discharge&#039; possibilities and being a third party to it...who knows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably just want nothing to do with anything that even smacks of &#8216;discharge&#8217; possibilities and being a third party to it&#8230;who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Sager</title>
		<link>https://solopracticeuniversity.com/2010/10/27/can-squareup-work-for-your-practice/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Sager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;14. Representation and Warranties
You represent and warrant to us that: ...(j) you are not engaged in and will not accept payment for any of the following: ...(16) bankruptcy attorneys.&quot;

I would never accept payment from a client via a credit card for attorney&#039;s fees &amp; costs associated with a bankruptcy, but debit cards with MC/Visa logo are basically a cash transfer.

I wonder why squareup specifically excluded bankruptcy attorneys from using its service.

edsager]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;14. Representation and Warranties<br />
You represent and warrant to us that: &#8230;(j) you are not engaged in and will not accept payment for any of the following: &#8230;(16) bankruptcy attorneys.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would never accept payment from a client via a credit card for attorney&#8217;s fees &amp; costs associated with a bankruptcy, but debit cards with MC/Visa logo are basically a cash transfer.</p>
<p>I wonder why squareup specifically excluded bankruptcy attorneys from using its service.</p>
<p>edsager</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Fletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Fletcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;ve been using AcceptPay by American Express (www.acceptpay.com) for about six months and have been recommending it to both attorneys and non-attorney business owners.  They haven&#039;t aggressively marketed this service to lawyers, and there&#039;s no smartphone swiping option, but I&#039;ve been pretty happy.  It&#039;s really run by a company called PaySimple, which from my research is among the best out there for streamlining the receivables process.  I went with them because it&#039;s very easy to set up automatic recurring billing, which supports a big part of my business model:  flat-fee legal service plans that are billed monthly and vary in price by the amount of services included.  I sign clients for a minimum one-year commitment and AcceptPay has made the payment part of this very easy.

The regular invoicing and collection features are pretty good too and allow me to accept payments by credit card, eCheck and ACH payments in person, by phone or via online payment form.  I can also set up unlimited, free user  profiles to help me get out of the bookkeeping business some day.  The rates are pretty reasonable and customer support has been outstanding.

Of course, being able to deal with trust accounts is a huge issue.  AcceptPay is able to support dual accounts for my trust account and operating accounts (client funds are deposited into my trust account and monthly fees are withdrawn from my operating account and/or charged to a credit card).

The only downside I&#039;ve found is that while AcceptPay integrates with QuickBooks, that doesn&#039;t include QuickBooks Online (unfortunately, I&#039;ve found that a lot of things that say they integrate with QB don&#039;t integrate with QB Online).

Hope this helps.

Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ve been using AcceptPay by American Express (www.acceptpay.com) for about six months and have been recommending it to both attorneys and non-attorney business owners.  They haven&#8217;t aggressively marketed this service to lawyers, and there&#8217;s no smartphone swiping option, but I&#8217;ve been pretty happy.  It&#8217;s really run by a company called PaySimple, which from my research is among the best out there for streamlining the receivables process.  I went with them because it&#8217;s very easy to set up automatic recurring billing, which supports a big part of my business model:  flat-fee legal service plans that are billed monthly and vary in price by the amount of services included.  I sign clients for a minimum one-year commitment and AcceptPay has made the payment part of this very easy.</p>
<p>The regular invoicing and collection features are pretty good too and allow me to accept payments by credit card, eCheck and ACH payments in person, by phone or via online payment form.  I can also set up unlimited, free user  profiles to help me get out of the bookkeeping business some day.  The rates are pretty reasonable and customer support has been outstanding.</p>
<p>Of course, being able to deal with trust accounts is a huge issue.  AcceptPay is able to support dual accounts for my trust account and operating accounts (client funds are deposited into my trust account and monthly fees are withdrawn from my operating account and/or charged to a credit card).</p>
<p>The only downside I&#8217;ve found is that while AcceptPay integrates with QuickBooks, that doesn&#8217;t include QuickBooks Online (unfortunately, I&#8217;ve found that a lot of things that say they integrate with QB don&#8217;t integrate with QB Online).</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark-

Perhaps that has changed from when you first looked at Square. From their current website:

&quot;How much money can I accept?
Square enables you to accept card payments of any amount. No limits.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark-</p>
<p>Perhaps that has changed from when you first looked at Square. From their current website:</p>
<p>&#8220;How much money can I accept?<br />
Square enables you to accept card payments of any amount. No limits.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Attorney Dan Reuter:

Here in Indiana there is only one credit card provider who works with the lawyers&#039; trust account system. So no expenses or unearned fees (retainers, etc.), or PI judgment proceeds can go through any other system. However, if, like me, you do mostly family &amp; criminal law on a fixed-fee basis, none of this constitutes a problem. My problem is that few of my clients have credit cards. I&#039;ll look @ this &quot;squareup&quot;, though.

I think it is only practical for a smartphone or a 3-g IPad. Apparently it works via WiFi (since it works on an IPod Touch), but there is no WiFi available to the public in the court houses I frequent. I guess you could do it via MiFi, but now we are playing around with a lot of hardware. I use a touch &amp; not a smartphone because you can&#039;t take a mobile phone with you into jail &amp; I often want my calendar, etc. when talking with jail residents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Attorney Dan Reuter:</p>
<p>Here in Indiana there is only one credit card provider who works with the lawyers&#8217; trust account system. So no expenses or unearned fees (retainers, etc.), or PI judgment proceeds can go through any other system. However, if, like me, you do mostly family &#038; criminal law on a fixed-fee basis, none of this constitutes a problem. My problem is that few of my clients have credit cards. I&#8217;ll look @ this &#8220;squareup&#8221;, though.</p>
<p>I think it is only practical for a smartphone or a 3-g IPad. Apparently it works via WiFi (since it works on an IPod Touch), but there is no WiFi available to the public in the court houses I frequent. I guess you could do it via MiFi, but now we are playing around with a lot of hardware. I use a touch &#038; not a smartphone because you can&#8217;t take a mobile phone with you into jail &#038; I often want my calendar, etc. when talking with jail residents.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I realize you were being facetious, but I don&#039;t see it changing.

There are actually a couple of vendors that specialize in merchant services (credit card processing) for attorneys. They will set it up so that all money charged will go into an IOLTA account, while the credit card fees come out of your operating account. I think that is the future... technology adapts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I realize you were being facetious, but I don&#8217;t see it changing.</p>
<p>There are actually a couple of vendors that specialize in merchant services (credit card processing) for attorneys. They will set it up so that all money charged will go into an IOLTA account, while the credit card fees come out of your operating account. I think that is the future&#8230; technology adapts.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, I don&#039;t mean to question you but in their own ad they use a $300 couch! I&#039;m sure the terms of service and amounts will change as they grow.  I know they limit the amount of transfers to you per day/week.  So there are potential issues as they grow.  Yet, this is something to keep an eye on for the not so distant future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I don&#8217;t mean to question you but in their own ad they use a $300 couch! I&#8217;m sure the terms of service and amounts will change as they grow.  I know they limit the amount of transfers to you per day/week.  So there are potential issues as they grow.  Yet, this is something to keep an eye on for the not so distant future.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark C. Metzger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark C. Metzger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue with Square use by lawyers isn&#039;t commingling as much as it is the transaction limits.  When I looked into Square, they had two limits that made this service unattractive.  The first was a $125 limit on any one charge and the second was a monthly limit that was expressed in dollars.

My hourly rate is more than $125 (and I suspect most are), so this won&#039;t be a viable solution until they raise the roof a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue with Square use by lawyers isn&#8217;t commingling as much as it is the transaction limits.  When I looked into Square, they had two limits that made this service unattractive.  The first was a $125 limit on any one charge and the second was a monthly limit that was expressed in dollars.</p>
<p>My hourly rate is more than $125 (and I suspect most are), so this won&#8217;t be a viable solution until they raise the roof a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,  You realize I was being facetious about physically &#039;touching.&#039;  Yes, of course it is an accounting issue.  However, based upon your argument, then no attorney can accept credit card payment this way or any other way because they all charge fees to the vendor.  You are permitted to keep a small amount of your own money in an IOLTA as a hedge against any issues which might trigger an automatic report such as an inappropriate bank fee/error.  http://www.dcbarfoundation.org/documents/NewRuleOrder.pdf  (this is just one example). Other states have considered Paypal.  It&#039;s why I see it changing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,  You realize I was being facetious about physically &#8216;touching.&#8217;  Yes, of course it is an accounting issue.  However, based upon your argument, then no attorney can accept credit card payment this way or any other way because they all charge fees to the vendor.  You are permitted to keep a small amount of your own money in an IOLTA as a hedge against any issues which might trigger an automatic report such as an inappropriate bank fee/error.  <a href="http://www.dcbarfoundation.org/documents/NewRuleOrder.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcbarfoundation.org/documents/NewRuleOrder.pdf</a>  (this is just one example). Other states have considered Paypal.  It&#8217;s why I see it changing</p>
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