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		<title>By: wesclark</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck, I absolutely agree that it&#039;s simply a matter of degree and I&#039;m not really trying to advocate that anyone else should join me this far out on the proverbial limb, although I&#039;m sure some of my rhetoric has implied otherwise.

A country of one...I like the way you&#039;re thinking now! But, I&#039;d do it without the country and create it as merely one sovereign individual. :)

I&#039;ll consider the political office angle. I just see it as becoming part of the machine, which concerns me deeply. As always, I appreciate the thoughts and discussion. I realize I&#039;m a tough nut to crack but I hope you know that I don&#039;t bring these things up just to be obstinately combative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, I absolutely agree that it&#8217;s simply a matter of degree and I&#8217;m not really trying to advocate that anyone else should join me this far out on the proverbial limb, although I&#8217;m sure some of my rhetoric has implied otherwise.</p>
<p>A country of one&#8230;I like the way you&#8217;re thinking now! But, I&#8217;d do it without the country and create it as merely one sovereign individual. <img src="https://solopracticeuniversity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll consider the political office angle. I just see it as becoming part of the machine, which concerns me deeply. As always, I appreciate the thoughts and discussion. I realize I&#8217;m a tough nut to crack but I hope you know that I don&#8217;t bring these things up just to be obstinately combative.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Newton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wes, I agree that what you argue is the full extension of not being a cog in someone else&#039;s wheel, but we are talking about a matter of degree.  In the past, we have been wading through where you can go and what you can do, with your legal education, so as to better effectuate your political beliefs.  Outside of forming your own country of one, which I do not know how to do, I thought politics would be an effective outlet for you exercise those beliefs.  I do not have to agree with your beliefs to believe you need to find an outlet for your talents that is comfortable for you.  So, it was a suggestion.  I think a good suggestion.  Consider it some more.  It takes a good deal of effort and planning to do it successfully, but it probably beats just writing about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes, I agree that what you argue is the full extension of not being a cog in someone else&#8217;s wheel, but we are talking about a matter of degree.  In the past, we have been wading through where you can go and what you can do, with your legal education, so as to better effectuate your political beliefs.  Outside of forming your own country of one, which I do not know how to do, I thought politics would be an effective outlet for you exercise those beliefs.  I do not have to agree with your beliefs to believe you need to find an outlet for your talents that is comfortable for you.  So, it was a suggestion.  I think a good suggestion.  Consider it some more.  It takes a good deal of effort and planning to do it successfully, but it probably beats just writing about it.</p>
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		<title>By: wesclark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wesclark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s fairly universal that the initiation of physical force (or the threat thereof) or fraud against people and their property is ethically illegitimate. Everything the system does stems from its legalized monopoly on the initiation of force. That monopoly is what I reference when mentioning the immoral power wielded by the system.

Government employees (at all levels) account for less than 8% of the population, which seems to me to be a rather small group of people who are determining, interpreting, and enforcing the rules for everyone else. That number includes full-time and part-time government employees as well as all lawyers currently licensed and active in the United States. I certainly wouldn&#039;t want to live in a neighborhood of 100 properties where 8 of them got to decide the rules governing all 100 properties. Now, I realize that relatively speaking that neighborhood would be better than living in another neighborhood where 1 owner decided everything, but if everyone has equal ownership interests in their respective properties (e.g. 100%) I&#039;m not sure what right any property owner has to dictate any rules.

I can&#039;t understand the need for me to explain a system with which to replace the current order given the fact that if it was possible for any one person to explain how it should all work then the representative process would be entirely unnecessary. Asking for a better system to be designed to avoid “anarchy” (I assume you&#039;re using this term merely to mean chaos, rather than the absence of government) is akin to a person in the antebellum south asking an abolitionist, “But where are all these slaves going to find jobs? It would be chaos if they were free and had to go out and find something to do on their own!” (I&#039;m not using this analogy to cast aspersions, merely to make the point that freedom cannot logically be condemned using fear of the unknown.) The beauty of human society is that we are a self-organizing species when given the freedom to operate. There will always be disputes but processes would arise that did not rest upon initiating force.

I&#039;ve previously considered a career in politics but given my current beliefs I don&#039;t think it makes sense to again endorse the system by further ensconcing myself in its power. There&#039;s a logical disconnect in using the system to fight the system that I can&#039;t get past, due to its nearly wholesale failure as a political strategy over the past century. That&#039;s why I&#039;m looking for a way to work outside the system. Maybe I should say I do not want to be a cog in ANYone else&#039;s wheel. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s fairly universal that the initiation of physical force (or the threat thereof) or fraud against people and their property is ethically illegitimate. Everything the system does stems from its legalized monopoly on the initiation of force. That monopoly is what I reference when mentioning the immoral power wielded by the system.</p>
<p>Government employees (at all levels) account for less than 8% of the population, which seems to me to be a rather small group of people who are determining, interpreting, and enforcing the rules for everyone else. That number includes full-time and part-time government employees as well as all lawyers currently licensed and active in the United States. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to live in a neighborhood of 100 properties where 8 of them got to decide the rules governing all 100 properties. Now, I realize that relatively speaking that neighborhood would be better than living in another neighborhood where 1 owner decided everything, but if everyone has equal ownership interests in their respective properties (e.g. 100%) I&#8217;m not sure what right any property owner has to dictate any rules.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t understand the need for me to explain a system with which to replace the current order given the fact that if it was possible for any one person to explain how it should all work then the representative process would be entirely unnecessary. Asking for a better system to be designed to avoid “anarchy” (I assume you&#8217;re using this term merely to mean chaos, rather than the absence of government) is akin to a person in the antebellum south asking an abolitionist, “But where are all these slaves going to find jobs? It would be chaos if they were free and had to go out and find something to do on their own!” (I&#8217;m not using this analogy to cast aspersions, merely to make the point that freedom cannot logically be condemned using fear of the unknown.) The beauty of human society is that we are a self-organizing species when given the freedom to operate. There will always be disputes but processes would arise that did not rest upon initiating force.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve previously considered a career in politics but given my current beliefs I don&#8217;t think it makes sense to again endorse the system by further ensconcing myself in its power. There&#8217;s a logical disconnect in using the system to fight the system that I can&#8217;t get past, due to its nearly wholesale failure as a political strategy over the past century. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m looking for a way to work outside the system. Maybe I should say I do not want to be a cog in ANYone else&#8217;s wheel. <img src="https://solopracticeuniversity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Newton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry Wes, the system is us collectively, which allows us all individually to try to bring some justice, fairness or balance from our perspective to it.  The courts and law play an integral part.  It is neither run by a small group of people, and by and large these people (whatever the number) are not evil.  I cannot imagine what would happen to your positions if there was only argument and no baseline protections from which to work.  The problem is that what you see as right, others see as wrong.  Or another way to put it is what others see as right, you see as wrong.  I personally refuse to divide the World up as good and evil with that baseline being whether they agree with either you or me.  In reality it is generally held that people as a group or groups cannot agree on what is right.  But, as a group or groups people can come to a consensus on what is wrong.  That is what tends to happen and that is were laws come along.  Then people who disagree with the will of the consensus have due process rights.  That is the court system, or contractually maybe arbitration.  We have a rather large government, thousands of elected officials, thousands of judges and court personnel, and it is hard for me to see how that is an exceedingly small group of people wielding &quot;immoral power&quot;.  Further, given the number of lawsuits, attorneys, mediations, negotiations, arbitrations, appeals, including class actions and broad-based actions like the various states suing over health reform, it does not look like people are standing around idly by.  I agree that it is a messy process sometimes, but maybe I could understand your position if I could understand what you would replace it with that would not result in total anarchy.

From what I have heard from you so far, in trying to figure out your path in life and law, it sounds like you do not want to be part of arguing for or against the various laws and rules, but you want to be shaping them.  I think that is a lofty position for anybody to aspire to. You get there by transitioning to elective office, working yourself up, and fighting at the base of where this originates to reach consensus only by mutual consent and argument.  It is not easy, but it is admirable in my book.  Have you thought about a career in politics?  Because whether I agree with you or not on the broader issues, it sounds like to me that you have a perspective and position to offer.  You should try that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Wes, the system is us collectively, which allows us all individually to try to bring some justice, fairness or balance from our perspective to it.  The courts and law play an integral part.  It is neither run by a small group of people, and by and large these people (whatever the number) are not evil.  I cannot imagine what would happen to your positions if there was only argument and no baseline protections from which to work.  The problem is that what you see as right, others see as wrong.  Or another way to put it is what others see as right, you see as wrong.  I personally refuse to divide the World up as good and evil with that baseline being whether they agree with either you or me.  In reality it is generally held that people as a group or groups cannot agree on what is right.  But, as a group or groups people can come to a consensus on what is wrong.  That is what tends to happen and that is were laws come along.  Then people who disagree with the will of the consensus have due process rights.  That is the court system, or contractually maybe arbitration.  We have a rather large government, thousands of elected officials, thousands of judges and court personnel, and it is hard for me to see how that is an exceedingly small group of people wielding &#8220;immoral power&#8221;.  Further, given the number of lawsuits, attorneys, mediations, negotiations, arbitrations, appeals, including class actions and broad-based actions like the various states suing over health reform, it does not look like people are standing around idly by.  I agree that it is a messy process sometimes, but maybe I could understand your position if I could understand what you would replace it with that would not result in total anarchy.</p>
<p>From what I have heard from you so far, in trying to figure out your path in life and law, it sounds like you do not want to be part of arguing for or against the various laws and rules, but you want to be shaping them.  I think that is a lofty position for anybody to aspire to. You get there by transitioning to elective office, working yourself up, and fighting at the base of where this originates to reach consensus only by mutual consent and argument.  It is not easy, but it is admirable in my book.  Have you thought about a career in politics?  Because whether I agree with you or not on the broader issues, it sounds like to me that you have a perspective and position to offer.  You should try that.</p>
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		<title>By: wesclark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wesclark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see bureaucrats as obstructionists because I see them for what they are, while they see themselves as what they wish to be. The fundamental difference between them and myself is that they hide behind the legal monopoly of force given to them by government while I wish to live absent such a monopoly. They can only do good through the use of evil while I am forced to bow to evil in order to hope to somehow do good. Balance is a meaningless concept that does more harm than good in the realm of wrong and right.

Lawyers would still exist without the system because there would always be a need for people who are educated in the art of arguing for a given position. Nothing about disagreement requires the system to exist as it does, it is simply easier to accept the system and say, “Well, I can at best change this little part of the injustice to make it better”. But how can one who fundamentally disagrees with the system&#039;s premises use the system&#039;s power?

The problem with the system as it exists is that it has been devised and executed by an exceedingly small group of people who have ultimately wielded an immense and immoral power over the entirety of the human population, without any justification. And the population has stood idly by, because it&#039;s easier to do nothing and go along with evil than it is to try to stop it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see bureaucrats as obstructionists because I see them for what they are, while they see themselves as what they wish to be. The fundamental difference between them and myself is that they hide behind the legal monopoly of force given to them by government while I wish to live absent such a monopoly. They can only do good through the use of evil while I am forced to bow to evil in order to hope to somehow do good. Balance is a meaningless concept that does more harm than good in the realm of wrong and right.</p>
<p>Lawyers would still exist without the system because there would always be a need for people who are educated in the art of arguing for a given position. Nothing about disagreement requires the system to exist as it does, it is simply easier to accept the system and say, “Well, I can at best change this little part of the injustice to make it better”. But how can one who fundamentally disagrees with the system&#8217;s premises use the system&#8217;s power?</p>
<p>The problem with the system as it exists is that it has been devised and executed by an exceedingly small group of people who have ultimately wielded an immense and immoral power over the entirety of the human population, without any justification. And the population has stood idly by, because it&#8217;s easier to do nothing and go along with evil than it is to try to stop it.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve felt a few of those myself...but I would never stop being a trailblazer :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve felt a few of those myself&#8230;but I would never stop being a trailblazer <img src="https://solopracticeuniversity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Newton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is that the old saying that it is great to be a trailblazer but the arrows in the back hurt?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that the old saying that it is great to be a trailblazer but the arrows in the back hurt?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Chuck, that is the beauty of having some experience with the practice of law in all its incarnations.  When you arrive you appreciate the journey and can celebrate your hard-earned scars, too.  Then others get to benefit from it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Chuck, that is the beauty of having some experience with the practice of law in all its incarnations.  When you arrive you appreciate the journey and can celebrate your hard-earned scars, too.  Then others get to benefit from it!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Newton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well thanks, Carolyn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thanks, Carolyn.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Elefant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carolyn Elefant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck,

You have got to have the healthiest attitude of anyone in the blogosphere.  Wish there were more like you.

Carolyn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>You have got to have the healthiest attitude of anyone in the blogosphere.  Wish there were more like you.</p>
<p>Carolyn</p>
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