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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
		<link>https://solopracticeuniversity.com/2010/02/01/the-legal-professions-dirty-little-secret/#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 14:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sam,

The &#039;trapped&#039; feeling is what can set many negative or destructive actions in motion.  I&#039;m not a therapist, but I would encourage you to seek out one and even seek out a life coach.  I&#039;d also recommend you look to change practice areas.  Experiencing a drop in gross receipts is not unique to divorce law and others are making shifts to other practice areas which seem more promising monetarily, more mobile, less litigious. If divorce is 80% of your practice, what is the other 20%?  How can you tap into your client base for additional work, bankruptcy, foreclosures, trusts and estates? You may also have to review your overhead expenses and investigate new processes to streamline your practice and cut costs. There is always a way.  The hard and necessary part is for you to regroup, however, and start looking at the raw material you have to work with, reshape and remold it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>The &#8216;trapped&#8217; feeling is what can set many negative or destructive actions in motion.  I&#8217;m not a therapist, but I would encourage you to seek out one and even seek out a life coach.  I&#8217;d also recommend you look to change practice areas.  Experiencing a drop in gross receipts is not unique to divorce law and others are making shifts to other practice areas which seem more promising monetarily, more mobile, less litigious. If divorce is 80% of your practice, what is the other 20%?  How can you tap into your client base for additional work, bankruptcy, foreclosures, trusts and estates? You may also have to review your overhead expenses and investigate new processes to streamline your practice and cut costs. There is always a way.  The hard and necessary part is for you to regroup, however, and start looking at the raw material you have to work with, reshape and remold it.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>https://solopracticeuniversity.com/2010/02/01/the-legal-professions-dirty-little-secret/#comment-1022</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 13:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been practicing law for almost fourteen years. From 1998 until 2004 I worked for the State as an Assistant Public Defender. I was forced to leave that job in large part because of back problems that caused severe pain.
 After unsuccessfully searching for a job with a larger legal entity than myself I realized that to feed myself I had to start  practicing on my own. Now, about eighty percent of my practice is divorces. And I never planned on being a divorce lawyer. Actually I never planned on being a lawyer the way the law is practiced as I know it.
 And now with the economy faltering my gross receipts have fallen off a cliff. I am behind on my bills yet everyone assumes I have a lot of money because I am a lawyer. They are wrong and the few that find out how wrong they are draw the conclusion that I am not &quot;any good&quot;. I would like to change careers but it is hard to go back to school with debt and a lot of low paying obligations to other people&#039;s problems. In short I feel like I am in a trap.
 SL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been practicing law for almost fourteen years. From 1998 until 2004 I worked for the State as an Assistant Public Defender. I was forced to leave that job in large part because of back problems that caused severe pain.<br />
 After unsuccessfully searching for a job with a larger legal entity than myself I realized that to feed myself I had to start  practicing on my own. Now, about eighty percent of my practice is divorces. And I never planned on being a divorce lawyer. Actually I never planned on being a lawyer the way the law is practiced as I know it.<br />
 And now with the economy faltering my gross receipts have fallen off a cliff. I am behind on my bills yet everyone assumes I have a lot of money because I am a lawyer. They are wrong and the few that find out how wrong they are draw the conclusion that I am not &#8220;any good&#8221;. I would like to change careers but it is hard to go back to school with debt and a lot of low paying obligations to other people&#8217;s problems. In short I feel like I am in a trap.<br />
 SL</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you. I lost an attorney family member to suicide years ago. It was before the lessening of the stigma of going for help, which unfortunately is still there. Articles such as this contirbute to the trend that is going in the right direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. I lost an attorney family member to suicide years ago. It was before the lessening of the stigma of going for help, which unfortunately is still there. Articles such as this contirbute to the trend that is going in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
		<link>https://solopracticeuniversity.com/2010/02/01/the-legal-professions-dirty-little-secret/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you become a fan of SPU on Facebook ( http://facebook.com/solopracticeuniversity ) you can listen to Keith Anderson discuss his slip into depression, the impact on his professional life and his recovery. His interview is February 23rd.  This teleseminar is free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you become a fan of SPU on Facebook ( <a href="http://facebook.com/solopracticeuniversity" rel="nofollow">http://facebook.com/solopracticeuniversity</a> ) you can listen to Keith Anderson discuss his slip into depression, the impact on his professional life and his recovery. His interview is February 23rd.  This teleseminar is free.</p>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
		<link>https://solopracticeuniversity.com/2010/02/01/the-legal-professions-dirty-little-secret/#comment-1019</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a relatively new litigator, and coming to it in my 40s, I have had to deal with a whole new range of emotions.  Maybe not a whole new range, but the speed with which the rollercoaster now runs is much faster than before entering litigation.  I try to be more aware of the pattern and warn others around me.  I struggle with whether or not litigation is my cup of tea, but becoming more self-aware is helping with the transition.  I can admit to myself feeling overwhelmed, but it probably isn&#039;t going to be something I share with the partners, unless I feel like the case is going off the tracks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a relatively new litigator, and coming to it in my 40s, I have had to deal with a whole new range of emotions.  Maybe not a whole new range, but the speed with which the rollercoaster now runs is much faster than before entering litigation.  I try to be more aware of the pattern and warn others around me.  I struggle with whether or not litigation is my cup of tea, but becoming more self-aware is helping with the transition.  I can admit to myself feeling overwhelmed, but it probably isn&#8217;t going to be something I share with the partners, unless I feel like the case is going off the tracks.</p>
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		<title>By: wesclark</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would direct anyone attempting to understand the depression epidemic (both within the legal profession and in our society in general) to study the ideas of Bruce Levine.

For instance, in a Counterpunch article, Levine writes: &quot;Schools are routinely places where kids -- through fear -- learn to comply to authorities for whom they often have no respect, and to regurgitate material they often find meaningless. These are great ways of breaking someone. Today, U.S. colleges and universities have increasingly become places where young people are merely acquiring degree credentials -- badges of compliance for corporate employers -- in exchange for learning to accept bureaucratic domination and enslaving debt. &quot; ( http://www.counterpunch.org/levine12042009.html )

I agree with Chuck that the legal profession allows for a certain amount of freedom in fashioning a legal career that fits an individual&#039;s character. However, I would also argue that many of those people drawn to the legal profession dive in without understanding the true constraints imposed by the government monopoly on &quot;law&quot;. Some of the best and brightest minds enter the legal profession with dreams of changing the world and revolutionizing the way people interact. But the legal profession&#039;s expectations are crushing for many of these people, who after being saddled with debilitating debt are forced to fit their round personal peg into the square hole of the legal profession just to pay the bills.

I think there is also an argument to be made that the depression epidemic has sprouted from social conditions in general and that, given the uber-awareness and analytical capabilities of those who enter the legal profession, the profession is obviously going to be predisposed to having higher rates of depression. In my opinion, society breaks people and coerces them to tow the line in order to get ahead or maintain status. There is simply not enough freedom for people to find who they are supposed to be and, beyond that, society is organized in such a way as to destroy the adventurous motivations of people from a very young age.

In short, I see this problem as a combination of the shortcomings of the broader society we&#039;ve built and the legal profession itself. Our profession certainly exacerbates the issue by forcing so many arbitrary expectations upon the practicing lawyer. But those narrow limitations arise from a society that allows ultimate authority to define too much of each citizen&#039;s life. In days past, visionaries and dreamers had the western frontier to explore when they found society too oppressing. Now, there is effectively no escape which is a painful realization for any idealist who believes things could be done differently somehow. In today&#039;s united States, we expect everyone to be utilitarian: suck it up, get the job done, and don&#039;t complain.

In the legal profession, trying to do things differently is a huge risk even if one believes she has morality or justice on her side. That is a crushing reminder of the limitations on being a lawyer in today&#039;s hyper-controlled world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would direct anyone attempting to understand the depression epidemic (both within the legal profession and in our society in general) to study the ideas of Bruce Levine.</p>
<p>For instance, in a Counterpunch article, Levine writes: &#8220;Schools are routinely places where kids &#8212; through fear &#8212; learn to comply to authorities for whom they often have no respect, and to regurgitate material they often find meaningless. These are great ways of breaking someone. Today, U.S. colleges and universities have increasingly become places where young people are merely acquiring degree credentials &#8212; badges of compliance for corporate employers &#8212; in exchange for learning to accept bureaucratic domination and enslaving debt. &#8221; ( <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/levine12042009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/levine12042009.html</a> )</p>
<p>I agree with Chuck that the legal profession allows for a certain amount of freedom in fashioning a legal career that fits an individual&#8217;s character. However, I would also argue that many of those people drawn to the legal profession dive in without understanding the true constraints imposed by the government monopoly on &#8220;law&#8221;. Some of the best and brightest minds enter the legal profession with dreams of changing the world and revolutionizing the way people interact. But the legal profession&#8217;s expectations are crushing for many of these people, who after being saddled with debilitating debt are forced to fit their round personal peg into the square hole of the legal profession just to pay the bills.</p>
<p>I think there is also an argument to be made that the depression epidemic has sprouted from social conditions in general and that, given the uber-awareness and analytical capabilities of those who enter the legal profession, the profession is obviously going to be predisposed to having higher rates of depression. In my opinion, society breaks people and coerces them to tow the line in order to get ahead or maintain status. There is simply not enough freedom for people to find who they are supposed to be and, beyond that, society is organized in such a way as to destroy the adventurous motivations of people from a very young age.</p>
<p>In short, I see this problem as a combination of the shortcomings of the broader society we&#8217;ve built and the legal profession itself. Our profession certainly exacerbates the issue by forcing so many arbitrary expectations upon the practicing lawyer. But those narrow limitations arise from a society that allows ultimate authority to define too much of each citizen&#8217;s life. In days past, visionaries and dreamers had the western frontier to explore when they found society too oppressing. Now, there is effectively no escape which is a painful realization for any idealist who believes things could be done differently somehow. In today&#8217;s united States, we expect everyone to be utilitarian: suck it up, get the job done, and don&#8217;t complain.</p>
<p>In the legal profession, trying to do things differently is a huge risk even if one believes she has morality or justice on her side. That is a crushing reminder of the limitations on being a lawyer in today&#8217;s hyper-controlled world.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Cartier Liebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck, this is a perfect example.  More often, rather than admit overwhelm because lawyer&#039;s can&#039;t admit such, they sabotage themselves and their practices in order to get &#039;suspended&#039; or even disbarred.  I wonder how many grievances/suspensions/disbarments are related to self-sabotaging activities due to depression?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, this is a perfect example.  More often, rather than admit overwhelm because lawyer&#8217;s can&#8217;t admit such, they sabotage themselves and their practices in order to get &#8216;suspended&#8217; or even disbarred.  I wonder how many grievances/suspensions/disbarments are related to self-sabotaging activities due to depression?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Newton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a lawyer I practice with (as you know we do not run a traditional firm), who has a tendency to suffer from bouts of depression.  I have worked with several over my career.  He gets professional help.  What is interesting to me is that this lawyer&#039;s overall desire is to litigate cases -- until it comes time to do it and nasty back and forth with opposing counsel, the trial prep, the fear and anxiety initiates the depression.  I guess he wants to fight his daemons, so we go through this about once a year.  He stays on because ultimately he is a great at recognizing the pathology of a good case, he can work up a case well, and manage a case.  Ultimately, that is what I need.  I think the point of this is that in law, as in anything else, it is important to find those components you can do well.  The practice of law is pliable.  When people tell me that they do not enjoy it for one reason or the other, my point is to change it.  It is not as if you cannot build associations or venture into practice areas that you can enjoy and prosper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lawyer I practice with (as you know we do not run a traditional firm), who has a tendency to suffer from bouts of depression.  I have worked with several over my career.  He gets professional help.  What is interesting to me is that this lawyer&#8217;s overall desire is to litigate cases &#8212; until it comes time to do it and nasty back and forth with opposing counsel, the trial prep, the fear and anxiety initiates the depression.  I guess he wants to fight his daemons, so we go through this about once a year.  He stays on because ultimately he is a great at recognizing the pathology of a good case, he can work up a case well, and manage a case.  Ultimately, that is what I need.  I think the point of this is that in law, as in anything else, it is important to find those components you can do well.  The practice of law is pliable.  When people tell me that they do not enjoy it for one reason or the other, my point is to change it.  It is not as if you cannot build associations or venture into practice areas that you can enjoy and prosper.</p>
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